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Scam Warning: Nearly Got Caught Up In A Scam!

Journal Entry: Sat Jan 5, 2013, 9:54 PM
Hi everyone,
     I figured now would be a good time to warn you all about the dangers of selling any goods you make. As most of you know, I have uploaded some scenedog auctions recently! Today, I got many bids, but my most recent bidder for both of the adopts was shadow518. When one of the auctions closed and this person did not pay immediately, I began to get suspicious. As I did a background search on this person, I see that he has a reputation for being an art thief and that he has not paid people for their artwork (mainly adoptables). He's offered large amounts of points to people, but then asks for the artwork to be held. He never pays these poor artists, who will now have to give their adoptables to the second-highest bidders. Unfortunately, this also has happened to me!

   As I confessed my fears that he did not have enough points to pay for my adoptables (since I had read shadow518's comment yesterday saying that he only had 5 :points:), my customer started to get angry. He said that HE was the one who didn't want to get scammed by me. He said he did not know what the art I was going to give him looked like, so I told him, plainly, that it would be the exact same reference sheet that I had uploaded, except the name of his character would be written on the reference. As he told me he had been scammed 100 times, I again asserted that he needed to pay or I'd give the design to someone else. He made up an excuse that deviantART had sent him an error message concerning the inability to donate points to me, which I knew was a false, unprofessional error message. Since I knew the error message was obviously a fraud, I was not ashamed to point that out to him. As I told him kindly to pay the points or I'd have to give the design up, my customer started using foul language and rage. After I had sent a final message that there would be no transaction because I had had enough of his excuses and foul language and had heard of his reputation from other people on the site complaining about him, shadow518 again sent a rude message before I blocked him.


   Therefore, I urge you to keep an eye out for the people around you and their customers! I really don't want to have to do a background check on all my potential clientele, I find that it might be necessary now.
Don't let this happen to you, my little cuties! Be aware! To be on the safe side, you might as well block this person before he can try to delude you, too!
Take this as a warning: Be careful about who you sell to!

If any of you are interested in reading the aforementioned conversation, it can be found here: comments.deviantart.com/1/3462…

For those of you who are curious as to why the scenedogs have been momentarily replaced with dark grey blocks: I needed to make sure that this person couldn't take a screen-capture of my artwork after he started refusing to pay.

Stay safe, lovelies!
Xecax <3

[EDIT] It has been brought to my attention that the person I mentioned in this journal has an alternate account, flames-the-guard. Make sure to take precautions when dealing with these accounts!

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pastelii Featured By Owner Jun 20, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
was just scrolling through your journals and found this one.
yikes! rude language and an obvious scammer. it appears they are no longer an account...
i just hope they wont try again with another account. that happens a lot!!
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Xecax Featured By Owner Jun 20, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
It does happen a lot, unfortunately! >n<
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pastelii Featured By Owner Jun 20, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
it's terrible! but i have to admit, there are worse things in the world then scammers/idiots.
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ArtemisAdoption Featured By Owner Feb 10, 2013
O3O hey I clicked on the name links. And he seems to have deactivated those accounts. We might want to be careful..... he might be on another account still trying to get other adopts and what not. Thought I might give the heads up :3
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Xecax Featured By Owner Feb 11, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Thanks! ^u^ Glad you're still on the lookout <3
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ArtemisAdoption Featured By Owner Feb 11, 2013
Art thieves and people that don't follow someone else's rules just bug me so much.
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missysadopts Featured By Owner Jan 9, 2013  Hobbyist
He offered to buy one of my adopts and he wouldn't send me the points :iconpsadplz:

But now I know not to trust him. Thank you :iconphappyblushplz:
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Xecax Featured By Owner Jan 9, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
I'm sorry, Missy! >n< Now you know, though! Take care, and make sure you watermark your stuff so he can't repost it or anything!!
I'm sorry you had to find out the hard way u_u
=Xecax <3
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missysadopts Featured By Owner Jan 9, 2013  Hobbyist
It's ok Q A Q

And I shall start water marking now ; w ;
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ventingClown Featured By Owner Jan 6, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
;3; that sucks, yea he commented on one of my adopts, he hasn't made an offer though
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Xecax Featured By Owner Jan 6, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Just make sure to keep an eye out for him and be careful! ^u^ Glad he hasn't made a preposterous offer yet.
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ventingClown Featured By Owner Jan 6, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
pfft if he offers anything over 30 for MY art, I would be suspicious, on avrage I get 15 points at the most
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Xecax Featured By Owner Jan 6, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
What was strange was that he offered points that were around my normal price range, so I couldn't see anything wrong until I went further into his profile!
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ventingClown Featured By Owner Jan 6, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
:/ yuh
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aeroaddict Featured By Owner Jan 6, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
This guy is still at it and is offering $20 for this [link] even though he can't afford 5 :points:!
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Xecax Featured By Owner Jan 6, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Ugh, I can't believe nothing's been done about it! Well, then again, can he really get banned for promising money without delivering? Hmm >n< I guess we just have to keep an eye on him and the people he communicates with. Everyone needs to be warned that he won't pay the money he promises! That's all we can do <3
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aeroaddict Featured By Owner Jan 6, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I guess so, thank you for the warning in the first place. If I didn't know this, that poor person would've got scammed!
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Xecax Featured By Owner Jan 6, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
You're so welcome <3 I'm glad to see that word is getting out so people are becoming more aware of the scamming going on around here!
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blueskywatcher Featured By Owner Jan 6, 2013   General Artist
Awh. I feel so bad! I'm glad you figured it out though instead of being scammed out of your work.

But I did see him/her bidding on those adoptables. He bid what, like 200-300 points? And the auto buy was like 300 points so I just thought to myself "why not just auto buy it for 300 points instead of bidding?" So I myself did kind of think his bidding was a bit suspicious. But I'm glad you didn't fall for his scam. You deserve to be paid for those lovely adoptables!
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Xecax Featured By Owner Jan 6, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Aw, It's all right! I'm just glad it didn't happen to someone else. That would be awful! D:
Yeah, you are right! I did find that a bit suspicious, but since his offer was not something like 60,000 :points:, I didn't think too much of it! It would have been a dead giveaway if it was a huge amount of points, but 200-300 :points: is a normal transaction to me, so I didn't really see it coming for a while! >n<
Thanks so much for your concern <3
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blueskywatcher Featured By Owner Jan 6, 2013   General Artist
I guess thats one of my pet peeves. I mean, people OBVIOUSLY work hard on something like that and deserve to get what they ask for it, in this case; points. I hate when people do things like that, or when they steal art in broad daylight.
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Xecax Featured By Owner Jan 6, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
I know what you mean! It really is terrible and annoying. Most people aren't even good at stealing, either. >m<
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blueskywatcher Featured By Owner Jan 6, 2013   General Artist
Not too long ago my friend and I had caught an art theif and his/her "buddies". She didn't know what to do about it so she talked to me and we did a little investigation. One of the pictures they stole had been a picture I came across YEARS ago. Thankfully, I knew who the real artist was and contacted them. Another picture that was stolen had the signature of the original artist still on it, and in plain sight. I mean honestly? Even though I am strongly against art theft, you would still have thought that they would have looked for obvious proof that it was stolen.
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Xecax Featured By Owner Jan 6, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
I totally agree! I mean, I don't aim to be a criminal or anything, but I could definitely achieve a great occupation as an art thief because all one really must do is think.
Oh, I love to have little investigations! I get so thrilled >u<
It's a strange feeling when you find art that you've seen years ago on someone else's page/site. I'll say, "Hey, I have seen that before!" especially when I recognize a traced work. I don't have a very good memory, but usually I am able to find the original piece and contact the artist! It's fun to serve up some justice! >u<
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blueskywatcher Featured By Owner Jan 6, 2013   General Artist
Hehe we could the the superheroes of deviantart!

But how I knew that picture was because I had used it as a profile picture on another website, but of course I gave credit to the artist. It was also VERY popular on google, bing etc.
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Xecax Featured By Owner Jan 6, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Heee! That would make an interesting piece of artwork, don't you think? We should design costumes >u<
Oh, yeah, I'm glad it was easy for you to get in contact with the artist because of the popularity of the image! It really stinks that people hardly get in trouble for not leaving credit, though. It seems like, even though I've only been here for a little while, I've seen plenty of people using IDs (not commissioned for themselves) without leaving credit anywhere! And some people just upload others' artwork because they think it's pretty. That's so rude! >n<
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Reixxie Featured By Owner Jan 6, 2013  Student Digital Artist
I'm sorrythis happened to you, but thank you so much for the warning. I personally haven't been scammed regarding my adoptables, I'd very much like to keep it that way, so really appreciate it.. ;^;
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Xecax Featured By Owner Jan 6, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Aww, you're welcome! >u< I'm glad to let everyone know what happened so they can protect themselves and their wonderful art <3
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FancySmancy-adopts Featured By Owner Jan 5, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
oh wow! i noticed he did offer you alot of points for those auctions... man im so sorry that happened to you.
what a loser.. stupid scammers! i can't stand it!
thanks for this warning!^^
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Xecax Featured By Owner Jan 5, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
It's all right. I'm glad that I got the word out so others would be reminded to be wary of shady deals!
You're so welcome <3 I wouldn't want any of this stuff to happen to my friends! ^u^
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FancySmancy-adopts Featured By Owner Jan 5, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
<3 :iconblushplz:

yeah, i hate when things like this happen. but they get fixed! woot! XD

have a goodnight^^
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Xecax Featured By Owner Jan 5, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
You too, Neko!! <3
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HairyPawter Featured By Owner Jan 5, 2013  Student General Artist
I should try to ban him so he doesn't do this anymore. He never did any scamming to me, but i will try so no one gets scammed! C:
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Sspitfire12 Featured By Owner Jan 7, 2013  Student Artist
He have a alternate account soo..
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Xecax Featured By Owner Jan 5, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
That's very considerate of you! <3 I'm glad nothing has happened to you, yet! That would be awful >n<
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HairyPawter Featured By Owner Jan 5, 2013  Student General Artist
Welcome! And yeah, that really is terrible that he did that to you.
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Xecax Featured By Owner Jan 5, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
It's all right! ^u^ I'm just glad it didn't happen to any of you! I'll "take one for the team" any time if it means saving you guys from having to deal with it <3
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Mystic-Haze Featured By Owner Jan 5, 2013  Professional Writer
I actually spotted him on some adopts that I'm trying to get o3o. He claims it said one point, when it was actually ten
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Xecax Featured By Owner Jan 5, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
It seems lots of people have spotted him!! We all just gotta make sure our art is safely and securely watermarked and that we check out our customers' reputations if they seem suspicious! Just keep your eyes open >u< Stay safe, now! <3
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jaspering Featured By Owner Jan 5, 2013
O3o he bought a custom from me and paid
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Xecax Featured By Owner Jan 5, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
I'm so glad that you were paid and didn't get ripped off like lots of other people that came in contact with this person!! Mind if I ask you how much your custom was? <3
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jaspering Featured By Owner Jan 5, 2013
He just threw like 3 points at me. I don't really ask for much ( though my usual adopts are at least ten). Isk he said he didn't have much.
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Xecax Featured By Owner Jan 5, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Yeah, I kind of expected that. >n< I figured he didn't have much, or definitely not enough to pay for what he bid on. It seemed like he was deeply in debt to other adoptable sellers already!
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jaspering Featured By Owner Jan 5, 2013
Yes, and just by looking at his page too.
Well I do hope you sort all of this out eventually.
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Xecax Featured By Owner Jan 5, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
It's going to be okay! I've decided I'll just give the design from the closed auction to the second-highest bidder, and my still-open auction will continue to run! <3 Thanks for all your concern. It was a pleasure to converse with you!! >u< Remember to stay safe!
=Xecax <3
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Mashi-Adopts Featured By Owner Jan 5, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
I saw him wanting to buy an adopt and get upset when the seller responded to someone who comment before him with a better offer anyway ='C I knew something was up with him.
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Xecax Featured By Owner Jan 5, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
You could easily tell, with him! We just gotta remember to keep our eyes peeled and learn to pick up on behavior like that. He was obviously a scammer, but some people do a much better job of convincingly portraying a serious customer!! Just stay safe <3 I wouldn't want any of that to happen to you!
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Mashi-Adopts Featured By Owner Jan 5, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Yeah, I didn't think much of it but now that I know what he does, I'll be sure to be more careful >='c

I wouldn't wish it on anyone D'=
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Xecax Featured By Owner Jan 5, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Yep, just be on the lookout to keep yourself and your art safe, all right? I wouldn't wish it on anyone, either <3
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Mashi-Adopts Featured By Owner Jan 5, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
^ U ^ I'll do my best! <3333
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